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Hello Everybody
How are you ?
I would like to talk to you about a serious matter which is - English Language students can not build a correct simple sentence .
They are in advance level and they have to be professional .
I will list the reasons here to be under discussion.
1- dependency .
2- carelessness.
3- laziness .
4- cheating.

I hope everyone develops and improve his language to be qualified to get a job
and you have to not forget that there is Quias(measurement ) Examination which will measure your ability .


My best Regards

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lthank you say very impotant
but some student vrey lazy andanderstand what is or
how he study English langage

whan you asked me about my view
Einglish is my life
and is it so
ltis evry think and so lcan learned very easy

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Thanks alot for your a great post.
about reasons,i think point 1,3 and 4 are coming from point 2 but i guess there are other reasons for that.anyway,if you want to improve your language to be able to speak....etc,you must Practice what you learned and use it in your daily life as much as possible otherwise, it's useless.
just don't give up and i'm sure you will succeed.
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nasser i agree with you and we need to trust our ability:21:

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It is indeed a serious matter, i think this certificate won't have much value if the student graduated and still can't write a simple sentence let alone an essay.

some students study in Arabic and then we see them in live lectures asking others to translate what the dr. said, this bothers me a little because i don't get the point in joining Eng. if you gonna end up studying it in Arabic but then again i guess they already have jobs or they just don't care, they just want a certificate.

.Anyway, i think the first step is to stop studying in Arabic, and if you ran into a difficult word, just use the Dictionary

btw, this is a good topic to discuss, good luck everyone it's gonna be a long term:29:

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اللهم صل على محمد وآل محمد

thanks for you all ... I will not say any thing more but I think English is diffirrent about the other opjects because it is another language and it needs to specific skills.. which is started with like the English as another language and have some skills in reading and writing and some grammar as a base to going on in it


:16:thanks all and best wishes:16:

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اهلين خيو منير
الصراحه هذي حقيقه وصلنا لمستوايات كبيره ولسى مانقدر نكون جمله كامله صحيحه
وانا عن نفسي بقول انه التسويف هو الي دهورني بكره بكره وراح بكره ماتعلمت شي
وثانيا لان انا رقيبة نفسي يعني مافيه احد يقول اليوم اكتبي موضوع 100كلمه وسلميه بكره
أو خذي هذا الموضوع ترجميه
ولانه لا يوجد جزاء و لا عقاب
الواجبات نجمعها ونحلها بيوم واحد
وكذالك المحاضرات ننزلها بيوم واحد
والمناقشات ننقل من الي حلو قبلنا
ولا نكمل الجمله بعد ونأخذ الدرجه كامله

صراحه أنا مو عاجبني الوضع نفسي احس اني ادرس بجامعه صح
مناقشات صح ودكاتره يراجعون معنا ويعرفون من حل الواجب ومن غش ومن نسخ

أمنيه

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the skils very impotant
as writing and speaking and reading listening

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لااحنا وصلنا للمرحلة مافي احد يقولناا لازم سوا كذا واقرا او اكتب
لازم المبادرة الواحد من تلقاء نفسة

لازم نكتب براغرفات ونتدرب ع الكتابة التلقائية بدون اخطاء

صح انا معاك انو التحفيز مافية مثلادكتور يقول اخذو هذا الموضوع وسوا علية بحث ويشترك فية كم طالب وكذا ولكم درجات من عندي مثال يعني



انا من ناحيتي ماقصرت كل يوم احفظ واكتب واستمع بس ناقصني
المنهج العلمي المحدد امشي علية
مااقدر اواصل لحالي لازم مدرب جنبي او احد يوجهني

الايجابية انو تخصصنا متوفر لنا في كل وقت

لكن مشكلتي الوحيدة اني اعرف اكتب اذ مسكت القلم
لكن اذ جيت اكتب ع الكيبورد تطير الكلمات من راسي واتلخبط :37:

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Hi guys
I think the main reason for the weakness to building correctly sentences is the carelessness of the person who does not care about the development of language skills. and the biggest problem is the translation every single word into Arabic . I think he wasted his time in this specialty. as you say tomorrow there is alot of tests befor you get a job If you do not care about the development of your skills you will never get a job .



By the way I like you and your writing :16:

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اكبر محفز للانسان ان يتخيل نفسة

اذا كان صار مدرس يكتب كلمات خطاء للطلاب ويدخل علية المفتش الوزارة
ويكتب فية تقرير

او في مجلس عام يسال عن كلمات اجنبية ولايستطيع يجاوب
اعتقد في حينها لاتنفع المبررات بان نظام الجامعة كان خيارات او
الدكتور سهل الاسئلة وجاب من اسئلة العام الماضي

اذ الواحد ماصحي من الحين فالامور تكون عكسية وكارثة في المستقبل :18:

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معاااااك حق صراحه وفعلا المفروض نشتغل على انفسنا بنفسنا
عشان مانحط انفسنا بمواقف محرجه
اما بخصوص الأملاء
:34: حدث ولا حرج ولا شي أخطأ بالهبل
بس ان شاء الله نتحسن ونصير افضل

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شكرا على الأهتمام والسؤال في سبب ضعف المستوى لدى أغلب الطلاب أنا اتوقع لأن التعليم عن بعد ليس فيه ممارسه للغه بما فيه الكفايه كمتعلم يجب ان نتقن اغلب المهارات ومانعانيه في التعليم عن بعد ضعف المنهج مثل مادة الأنشاء والتعبير في الانتظام يعطى الطالب قطعه ويكتب وفي الكلاس يتم فتح موضوع للنقاش باللغه الأنجليزيه وسبق أنه في احدى الصحف لما سألوا لماذا لايتم قبول طلاب الأنتساب في التعليم العام اجابوا بسبب ضعف العملية التعليميه وانا وكثير عندنا مصطلحات ونعرف نقراء ونكتب كلمات قليله بس مو بيرفكت انا الصراحه اعاني من نسيان القرامر شريت كتب واقراء واسمع بس كل شي يتبخر وكل واحد يفيد بالطريقة اللي عنده علشان نشوف افضل طريقة للتعلم والله يعين يارب
بالتوفيق للجميع :16:

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I think the main reason lies in students of English Language majors these days is the lack of practice. Many students want to be just fed like babies and get their pampers changed by depending on the teacher's skills only and refusing to have extra assignments and practice for themselves.

This isn't just limited for distant-learning students, even the full-time students of English major are as lazy as they come. The only thing every of us can do is to expose him or her self outside the university's subjects zone.

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I extend my thank to all participants in the subject and I liked your views.
The most important how to encourage the students to do more in their study .
I don't deny that the handbook may be benefit in the current period but not permanently.
I am urging our colleagues to stop posting the handbooks in this forum and give opportunity to the students to be independents .
A lot of the students complain from the difficulty of reconciling between the study and family life as well as the work and they need these handbooks. The problem is in the regulation , anyhow if you have no ability to study you mustn't blame the lecturer when you fail even when you need the certificate just for promotion .

To whom he likes me --- me to i like him

My Regards

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yeah yeah sure